From my knowledge all these word lists are just converters for a private key,
Ive always wondered if it was possible to have a new “bip39” which is every character under ASCII just like how paraphrase works
I hate seeds… they are hard to remember, its easy for the guys with the guns to figure out which passwords are crypto, no plausible deniability when the fbi arrive n see that shit its over
I even thought about tattooing a seed on my body and then just using a paraphrase that’s equal to 128 bit entropy
I don’t want to be forced and conform to these word lists, I want my own custom password or seed i want to choose the entropy level.
Hi @rebecka,
there is probably some kind of misconception. These words and BIP standards are huge jump forward in your freedom. You can choose any HW vendor who follows these standards.
Your master private key is cornerstone and most important thing to get your funds. You need a way to recover, when things go wrong.
BIP39 is for dinosaurs SLIP39 is better way to go (new set of words, 20/33 words instead of 12/24).
Tattto aint good - maybe you will change your wallet backup (Recovery SEED) time to time. I would recommend Trezor Keep Metal or similar vendor.
I already have slip-39 and keep metals my problem is i have no plausible deniability if people find the seeds , government or other criminals your screwed and also memorizing 12-24 words is annoying
tattoo is bad because it shows ur involved with crypto thats the only problem but if u add a 128 bit equal paraphrase after then u can have ur own custom seed essentially
If you’re worried about the bad guys “seeing” it, punch your seed into a TKM and bury it in the woods
Like, all technically doable. Use the seed phrase all all all all... (12x “all”) which is trivial to remember, and set your own passphrase.
Of course, the bad guys are already brute-forcing the passphrases on that one, just on the off chance that someone is doing this.
If your passphrase only lives in your brain, you’re one bad bump on the head away from losing access. Perhaps if you make a strong passphrase and write it down, this could work Not that I would recommend it. In the typical case, it’s much more important to not lose access yourself than it is to prevent other people from gaining it.
Yes this idea of a “paraphrase” is your seed, just because its a password and not in 12 word format doesn’t mean to rely on your memory u take the exact same precautions with a seed but also have a memory as an add on
Smart! Exactly the kind of answer I was looking for
“That being said, if you’re looking to create a mnemonic phrase with specific words (like “coin” repeated 12 times), you won’t be able to use BIP39 standards as they require specific checksums and word ordering that ensure uniqueness and security. The checksum would fail if you use the same word multiple times.”
ChatGPT seems to be overcreative here, when all are the same. Anyway, last word could be guessed with 1/16 probability (or something like that) you find a keyword which will pass.
Also i guess that old Electrum wallets used custom SEED words. But again, i would not go against all those clever math/academic people behind this to come up with something better. It is easiest way to loose everything
36 digits of numbers = 128 bit entropy same as a 12 word bip39
bip39 brute force equal “purple!2dog$mountain5” just an example
but im not saying just numbers, Im on about a custom seed and no u dont rely on just memory u treat it as ur bitcoin private key i.e as most people know it as a seed
I did try on bip-39 on electrum they were not working “bip39 checksum error”
I see u said slip-14 but i dont want to use any word lists in the first place thats why i mentioned the post but lets say i did id atleast want to use the most popular word list so its less risky of forgetting that word list and if i have to note down the word list then that’s another danger in its self
Yeah no, that’s on the order of 70 bits of entropy. You are using what is basically a 7 “character” password, and each of the characters can be (a) a dictionary word (13 bits), (b) a number (3 bits) or a special character (4 bits) – plus, we can assume that it’s not too long overall so let’s say only 3 or 4 words in the mix.
At a simplistic guess, we can count 3 * 13 = 36 bits for words, 2 * 4 = 8 bits for the special chars, 2 * 3 = 6 bits for the numerals, and 7! = 210 = 8 bits for the ordering, for a total of 58 bits.
(The actual entropy is higher because I made the calculation too simple, and didn’t account for the possibility of a 4th word; as a guesstimate let’s round up to the 70 bits above)
Like don’t get me wrong, I still wouldn’t want to be brute-forcing 70 bits, but also you’re nowhere near the 128 bit security level.
works fine for me.
remember that (a) on electrum you have to select BIP-39 from options, the default is the bip39 wordlist but Electrum-specific checksum, and (b) you need to repeat the same word exactly 12 times
SLIP39 is better way to go (new set of words, 20/33 words instead of 12/24).
I would recommend Trezor Keep Metal or similar vendor.
(or something like that) you find a keyword which will pass.